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The Controversy that Won’t Go Away

Because some people don’t want it to. It’s the best wedge issue they’ve got now that Andrew Breitbart self-destructed and Sarah Palin may soon be right on his heels.

Both have been darlings of the political right wing and seen early and often on Fox News till Andy crashed and burned with his slice-and-dice video of Ms. Sherrod. Fox likes this sort of “journalism” but soon realized that his soiling of himself could soil their nest as well, so he’s no longer even mentioned, let alone begged for more video.

Now Sarah threatens to get on the List too. Fox’s Megyn Kelly was heard to ask why, oh, why are (liberals) still bringing up Sarah? Why, indeed. While Palin gets away with her maverick-y rhetoric that rouses the wingnut “base,” alas and alack, her endorsements of candidates are now all over the map, sometimes with as many losers as winners, and nettling Republicans along the way. Then she unloaded on Sen. Scott Brown, the fair-haired Boy Toy of Massachusetts: maybe she feared he could be her competish for a sexy cover of some popular mag.

So what’s left for the whiners? Glenn Beck? Naw, even Fox has long seen him as a huge problem for them, and when his space-flight is over, he’ll burn to a crisp on re-entry–and that’s no star that wary right-wingers want to hitch a wagon to.

That leaves: the “Mosque.” Well, we know it’s not about a mosque as such, but my does it breed a ton of suspicion and invective. It’s been pointed out everywhere but on Fox that when mention was first made of it many, many months ago on the Laura Ingraham show (no left-winger, she), not a hackle was raised. As Mayor Bloomberg of New York City has said repeatedly, it was only as the mid-term elections loomed that it was stirred as a wedge issue by politicians seeking votes.

As we know, people who watch Fox for their regular news won’t watch anything else. As one acquaintance told me, “I don’t want to hear the other side.” So our assumption all these years that people went to college for an education is not so, since the purpose is to learn to think critically and independently. That means that, besides being in love with celebrity, and given to immediate gratification, too many people are stupid as well. The old bromide is truer than we thought: is our biggest problem ignorance or apathy?–and the answer being–we don’t know, and we don’t care.

It’s bad enough that too many New Yorkers are now revealed as unsophisticated xenophobes, given their reaction to said center near Ground Zero. Thankfully, as their hot flashes abate, there will be fewer.

But in  Massachusetts are those who like to fan the flames. A group of students from the Wellelsley system were treated to a required social studies tour of Boston’s major mosque. While observing a prayer service several boys knelt and were seen on a parent’s camera doing so; she then gave it to a nutwing org that of course pasted it all over the internet.

This brought out all the talk-show bird-brains who forever are seeking a conspiracy, and a school rep had to apologize. Fine. But critics insisted the kids were “forced” to kneel. Not so. What we have to be careful of in these times is any confusion between church-state separation–something right-wingers want to dismantle, except when that principle suits their purposes.

Said students, and many classes before them in Wellesley (and elsewhere) go also to churches and synagogues. Is it hard to imagine that some, whether Catholic or not, e.g., may kneel as a sign of respect–as many non-Catholics do when visiting a cathedral on their own? Interestingly, the biggest supporters of the schools’ tour program are the parents–exclusive of course of the one who taped the kneelers and sent the footage to anti-Muslim jerkos.

A rabbi put a funny face on all this when he said he routinely makes an announcement for benefit of the back rows of the synagogue, where younger Jews and their visiting friends are seated, to turn off cell-phones and avoid talking during service. Now he wonders if he has to add that he better not catch them praying!.

While conservative George F. Will says the “mosque” controversy will dissipate by November, other prefer that it fester, at least until voters mayhap send Democrats scurrying into post-election retirement.

Like Fox News, they wonder about the “financing” of the Manhattan center. This kind of snooping was tried before, under Nixon, regarding publication of the Pentagon Papers, and became a lesson in how such a slippery slope of government intrusion sends shudders through countless innocent contributors.

They also plead the silly argument: why not put the proposed center three or four or five blocks away from Ground Zero? Gosh, we’ve cared so much about the Twin Tower tract that we’ve done nothing with it for nearly ten years. Now we suddenly care even about all the surrounding real estate. New Yorkers interviewed had different and heated ideas about distance for the center, so imagine if an alternative location were chosen, the Four-Blockers would be at odds with the Three-Blockers, and Five-Blockers would be at the throats of the Fours. And of course people who want it on the dark side of the moon would hate all the foregoing. What a country.

Americans like to wonder why world peace is so unattainable. Well, this is why. We’re as much at fault as anyone. Like everyone else, we love to fight and all we need is an excuse to do so.

Just ask the right wing–and critics of kids attending Boston’s mosque.

4 Responses to “The Controversy that Won’t Go Away”

  1. Next year at this time, the mosque issue will be as dead as the flap made over Obama speaking to school kids last year.

    • The Mosque issue and anti Muslim hatred will last as long as FOX “commentary”, and all their radicals like Glenn Beck have a forum to guide people who are unable to think for themselves. A perfect example is the way they attack President Obama with questions. I am always amazed at the way that people will accept as truth all of the untruths that are posed as questions, to elicit the response wanted by the person posing the question. Is he a closet Muslim, was he really born in USA. Is he really a racist and against white people.
      If the polls are correct about the number of people who accept these questions as truths, then there is a very large part of the voting population that just doesn’t have a clue.

  2. So much to correct, so little time…

    Breitbart did not self-destruct. He set an elaborate trap to expose the NAACP as a racist group that really doesn’t care about black people as much as it cares about conducting a propaganda campaign against the emergent tea parties. Your previous commenter spoke of “critical thinking”, let’s see if you can wrap your head around that. Liberals aren’t known for exploring past anything that seems to prove their convictions so “an elaborate trap” is probably too much to even consider. No problem, moving on…

    As for Sarah Palin, I’m not terribly fond of her and consider her a little too folksly for my tastes but your characterization of her is nothing short of blind partisan dismissal of the most important aspect of her presence… that she fills a gap in the absense of a unifying leader. You eschew the very analytical process you claim is absent in the opposition when you dismiss her following with a label. Obama has so many shortcomings and that, plus his inexperience, is what has lead to a Sarah Palin figurehead in our midst… not “stupid Americans.”

    You poke fun at Glenn beck yet he has a red phone and the White House had every opportunity to explain to him where he was wrong. I’m betting you think they didn’t call because they were above such “games”, yet they weren’t above referring to FOX as a propaganda arm of the Republican party…. now that wasn’t very presidential, was it? So, why didn’t they merely correct what he was saying. Obama is eloquent, right? Why are Democrats spending the election season defending health care reform rather than bragging about it? Gotta be Beck and that FOX propaganda wing despite Obama’s 400+ appearances trying, dismally, to explain it (ps. to people who actually READ the bill!)

    Regarding the mosque: you unwittingly pay tribute to Laura Ingraham’s willingness to reasonably dialogue with moderate Muslims. But, in your hyper-partisan world, you think everyone who is opposed to the mosque is a Republican that listens to FOX and conservative radio… therefore, you postulate, the lack of prior outrage must mean the election season is what’s causing the current outrage. The fact is, a lot of those opposing the mosque are Democrats, and Independents, too, who lost loved ones in it, and who aren’t, necessarily, a part of the conservative talk radio crowd, or the 24hr news cycle and not all of them knew of the mosque.

    The fact is, while there is a right to build the mosque, it’s in poor taste and the people have a right to protest. For you to diminish that, as well, shows how out of touch, and unsympathetic, you are. You don’t have to agree but you could certainly try to understand. Instead, you either dismiss, or humiliate. Shame on you.

    “As we know, people who watch Fox for their regular news won’t watch anything else. As one acquaintance told me, “I don’t want to hear the other side.” So our assumption all these years that people went to college for an education is not so, since the purpose is to learn to think critically and independently. That means that, besides being in love with celebrity, and given to immediate gratification, too many people are stupid as well. The old bromide is truer than we thought: is our biggest problem ignorance or apathy?–and the answer being–we don’t know, and we don’t care.”

    Far too simplistic an analysis which only serves to justify continuing the behavior that is getting liberals, and Democrats, into a meat grinder this election season. I tried to watch other sources and do watch CNN, but MSNBC with Matthews “thrills” and Olbermanns filthy pejorative rants, their use of the lewd term “teabagger”, like petty schoolchildren, made it very difficult. I appreciated Maddow’s piece on Obama regarding, “Indefinite Preventative Detention” (youtube it) which was real journalism. I listen to Colmes and others when I can to hear what they are saying but no matter how you slice it, FOX comes out as the most professional and accurate.

    This was impossible for you to deny when they were given front seat at the White House Press Core but Im sure you’ve got some spin as to why their fellow journalists considered them competent, legitimate and important enough to honor them with that distinction. You’ve also got Brett Baier, Greta, Schepp and the occasional appearance by Ellis Hennigan, and others, who do their best to provide ballast. So, come on, get off the college-level blame train.

    “It’s bad enough that too many New Yorkers are now revealed as unsophisticated xenophobes, given their reaction to said center near Ground Zero. Thankfully, as their hot flashes abate, there will be fewer.”

    Ok, so you’ve extended your college-level vitriolic mischaracterizations to New Yorkers, as well… at least you’re branching out.

    About the students kneeling in the mosque, the same dynamic exists as in sexual harassment cases… it’s not a simple matter of a couple people genuflecting out of respect. The fact that eludes you is that these kids are not in power… the school is. They might not want to pray, or genuflect, but maybe they feel pressured to because they don’t want to disappoint their liberal handlers. Neither you, nor I know, but that’s why certain laws exist so that those without the power don’t feel under pressure, or coerced.

    I agree that no matter where the mosque ends up, there’ll be someone who still won’t be happy but that’s a distraction from the main point. It’s in very, very poor taste for them to build it where radical Muslims murdered 3000 Americans. Especially from a “religion of peace.” You should look up the word, HARAM, before you open your mouth again on this topic.

    “Americans like to wonder why world peace is so unattainable. Well, this is why. We’re as much at fault as anyone. Like everyone else, we love to fight and all we need is an excuse to do so.”

    We don’t love to fight…. it’s that, quite often, we’re faced with the prospect of people who don’t like your “anything goes” liberal nature and want to cut you to pieces. And since you’re part of our American family, we defend you… sometimes having to take the fight to the enemy first.

    You’re just a thankless soul who bites the hand that feeds it. Hopefully, you’ll wake up…. hopefully.

    Sam

    • Ichabod Reply to “Sam Freedom” response: Enjoyed your rant. Or as the question goes: “Do you have a comment, or do you want to make a speech?”
      At first I thought the screed had possibilities but soon you went down the Rabbit Hole. Watch out for the Queen…


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